Oren Lyons: Value Change for Survival ECU#574BackOren Lyons: Value Change for Survival Faithkeeper of the Turtle Clan, Onondaga Nation who for decades has been a visionary voice, active in international indigenous rights and sovereignty issues at the United Nations and other international forums, speaks of how "we are living in a time of prophecy." ECU#574 Channel: Howto & Style Uploaded: January 9, 2007 at 5:25 pm Author: piucaprim Length: 0:08:19 Rating: 4.94 Views: 9,689 Tags: Oren-Lyons EnviroVideo Green-Sphere Global Warming Faith Keeper Native American Leaders Bioneers Conference Frank-Melli Video Comments: commonthread2 (Tuesday 14th of October 2008 11:34:26 PM)
I was brought up urban country Indian I think digging into the pockets of the CEOS might be a risky way for any Native to route their way into culture.My Dad would use Political means and the Creator to save the land he did that with the parks in our area cause he saw development coming in a dream . Dad saved small parcels of land for the sake of the salmon run he was a good Cree .
MoHAWK0001 (Sunday 12th of October 2008 05:12:42 PM)
he just plays a chief on tv.
MoHAWK0001 (Sunday 12th of October 2008 05:11:43 PM)
his name is onkwehonwe...original people. something oren can't call himself anymore. he stopped being onkwehonwe a long time ago.
MoHAWK0001 (Sunday 12th of October 2008 05:08:48 PM)
you are totally correct! but of course people here won't believe you because oren is soooooo super spiritual he would never do something like that! he almost sounds convincing when theres a camera around.
ongwehonweh (Sunday 12th of October 2008 07:59:12 AM)
Oren works with the zionist, what are you talking about?
ongwehonweh (Sunday 12th of October 2008 07:48:04 AM)
you don't chose to not be Seneca and then chose to be Onondaga, don't work that way. It may work for corporate States (non-Nations)like United States, Canada or Australia but not with real Nations. You especially can't adopt someone that is already in the family. When you've lived at Onondaga like I have, you would see what this guy and others with him have done.
MoHAWK0001 (Sunday 12th of October 2008 05:05:34 PM)
hen! i don't live on onondaga but i've seen whats been done. here's a fun game..drive down the rez main road and play "guess which house belongs to a council member"! lots of fun...aaaaaye.
WildOakLady (Sunday 12th of October 2008 06:54:09 AM)
So, youre living in Akwesasne? Do you think the same way of Tom Porter? I met both him and Oren a couple of weeks ago...in the same place. It feels like youre trying too hard, to discredit a great man...but thats what often happens I guess, when someone sticks his head out and stands on his principles. I guess also that leadership sometimes require uncomfortable desicions that everyone isnt going to agree with.
ongwehonweh (Sunday 12th of October 2008 07:55:56 AM)
Can't tell you about Tom Porter, only met him once. I've heard others say stuff about him but I can't honestly say. On other hand, I am fully aware of Oren Lyons' activities,especially since he is my 2nd cousin. Oren doesn't stick his head out unless its to give his BS renditions of the Great Law. Problem is most of you and even many Onkwehonwe have little or no knowledge of the Law. Leaders are not to make decisions on their own, it is by unanimous decision of the People.
tobiasminder73 (Wednesday 27th of August 2008 04:35:10 AM)
nuting but the truth! peace n love for Oren Lyons: Value Change for Survival!
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