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Stockhausen on Human evolution - 1972

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Excerpt from Karlheinz Stockausen's May 1972 lecture to the Oxford Union on 'Four Criteria of Electronic Music'. Here, Stockhausen responds to a question concerning the loss of 'Humanity' in electronic music.

Channel: Music
Uploaded: February 12, 2008 at 9:05 am
Author: golfthewlis

Length: 0:08:06
Rating: 4.42
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SecretTheatre (Monday 1st of December 2008 11:06:58 PM)
Little known fact: Stockhausen was EXTREMELY tall. You don't get that impression from photographs or film of him, but apparently he was well over 6ft tall (about 6ft 4in, I'm told).
SecretTheatre (Monday 1st of December 2008 11:03:06 PM)
Would a contemporary composer be invited to address the Oxford Union in 2008, I wonder?
annedegro (Monday 17th of November 2008 03:13:50 AM)
Once again we are treated by a response by richtomes that doesn't have anything to do with the subject and only shows his fascination for art and violence and his complete lack of knowledge of contemporary art and music.
richtomes (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:22:40 AM)
Once again we have a response by annedegro illustrating exactly the tactic employed by Stockhausen in this video. Instead of addressing the issue raised he chooses instead to dismiss it entirely, concentrating on discrediting the questioner as under-evolved. Smear tactics and insults are a particularly underevolved form of debate. Perhaps that's why KS tries so hard to paint himself as a superevolved being, attempting to distract us from the reality, also reflected by annedegro.
annedegro (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:30:27 AM)
I've invited you to discuss the music by KS (the subject of this video). You prefer to connect things to KS that aren't connected (like M. Stone and G. Adams) If you are able to: Please discuss the music of KS. If you prefer to insult people, do it in your own video.
richtomes (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:33:16 AM)
Once again personal attacks, accusations, no objectivity, just like Stockhausen. My subject of choice is the art revolution of the late 20th century which attempted to change the definition of art, and introduced the notion that anything might be considered as art. The original pedigree endures.
annedegro (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:38:36 AM)
Please read your own comments: "personal attacks, accusations, no objectivity" Let's discuss MUSIC Repeating this stupid idea that people like KS ever suggested that ANYTHING can be art, doesn't contribute to the discussion since KS NEVER claimed that ANYTHING can be art. You are the one that claims that other people claim that anything can be art : not KS nor any serious composer or artist would even suggest it!
richtomes (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:40:08 AM)
'Stupid', 'ignorant', etc, - no objectivity - just the same tactics as Stockhausen. A very under-evolved form of argument.
annedegro (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:42:46 AM)
So let us discuss the music of KS. Any work in particular that you want to discuss? And at least recognize that KS never stated that ANYTHING can be art.
richtomes (Monday 17th of November 2008 06:44:39 AM)
It's not what artists claimed which is important, it's what they did which illustrates the new loose definition of art which the late 20th century art revolution attempted to impose, with appalling results.